Ken Miller on Intelligent Design

I don’t often do this, but i couldn’t come up with any justifiable reasoning for me to simply pat P.Z. Myers on the back.

Ken Miller weighs in on Expelled

Category: Creationism
Posted on: May 8, 2008 3:15 PM, by PZ Myers

Guess what? He didn’t like it, nosir.

“Expelled” is a shoddy piece of propaganda that props up the failures of Intelligent Design by playing the victim card. It deceives its audiences, slanders the scientific community, and contributes mightily to a climate of hostility to itself. Stein is doing nothing less than helping turn a generation of American youth away from . If we actually come to believe that leads to murder, then we deserve to lose world leadership in . In that sense, the word “expelled” may have a different and more tragic connotation for our country than Stein intended.

That’s timely, since it’s also a theme of Miller’s new book, which argues strongly that has destructive consequences for America’s scientific enterprise.

This post was originally supposed to be a a response to a video i saw on youtube.


Direct Link to YouTube [JVRsWAjvQSg]
Ken Miller is one of the biologists involved in the human genome project and is an author/co-author to a number of the many biology books that many of us grew to loathe because of their size and dryness. He goes to town on the ID controversy and takes a very familiar position. For those of you like me who have been unable to muscle into the theatres to see this terrible excuse of a movie (or more like me, refusing to see it at all on grounds that you wont watch shit) i suggest you look around. there are a number of discussions going on highlighting the arguments being used in the movie and how it ultimatly fails miserably at proving anything.

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Posted on May 15th, 2008 by Bob in Misc. Video

2 Responses to “Ken Miller on Intelligent Design”

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  2. Bob Says:
    Firstly, i would like to say thank you for that. I also see that these posts of yours have been made on a number of sites so at the same time i considered telling you to fuck off and deleting it.

    Unfortunately i don’t, and downright refuse to, support your views until they are backed by science in the same way that all of the rest of science is backed by science.

    Good luck, i hope you don’t get too bored in heaven without all the rest of us godless atheists.

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